Sep 29, 2025 — Recording 2 (14:01) (Part 3)
Sep 29, 2025 — Recording 2 (14:01)
Audio: 20250929-140109.mp3
**2:01pm, What would it feel like to experience comfort again?*
File duration: 28:56
"It's 2:01 p.m. Monday, September 29th, 2025." [00:07]
"I wonder what it would feel like to experience comfort again." [00:13]
"I I'm very grateful for the shelter I have at the Denver rescue mission, especially in this situation." [00:28]
"But relief from the unconsented conversation." [00:35]
"The conversation itself is regardless of the content." [00:42]
"It there's a metaphor that people have suggested of people riding me around like an animal, right?" [00:51]
"And it does feel that way." [00:54]
"And so say, someone does send money, right?" [01:04]
"Reducing suffering for people right now is so important." [01:08]
"If you could reduce suffering for someone, they can withstand so much more." [01:15]
"When I was staying with uh as a guest at the serious apartment building, I would try to watch something." [01:27]
"I would exercise, I would enjoy the pool, you know." [01:33]
"But there was never any comfort really." [01:37]
"Alcohol is helpful to release anger." [01:40]
"I think it makes people a little more pliable." [01:44]
"A little more uh the lubrication helps you withstand, maybe the lubrication helps you withstand the torment." [01:56]
"versus a stimulant that may sharpen the violent experience." [02:04]
"Right?" [02:07]
"being able to have shelter away from people most of the time, what would that be?" [02:18]
"Well, it's not necessarily going to change anything for me." [02:22]
"Uh, theoretically, less people will be added to the euthanization list." [02:28]
"Right?" [02:32]
"And I can work safely without the threat of someone doing the bidding walking up behind me and executing me." [02:45]
"What it would also do is reveal my location." [02:51]
"I don't think there is hi, there's no hiding my location." [02:56]
"And I need because of my medication requirements, I need to stay in metropolitan area." [03:05]
"I it so there is emotional suffering that comes from seeing my life used to to hurt other people by others." [03:17]
"to hurt strangers, people passing by." [03:22]
"Um, but what would it feel like?" [03:28]
"What would comfort look like?" [03:30]
"I think being away from people would be incredibly helpful." [03:35]
"And then finally meeting some people that know what I'm going through." [03:41]
"people that would not judge me or tell me that I have schizophrenia, right?" [03:49]
"And maybe I could begin to trust people again through having in-person encounters, experiences that go well." [04:02]
"Small things, a zoom call, you know, fighting a therapist that knows what's happening to the city of Denver." [04:13]
"that knows what's happening to America." [04:18]
"Um but I don't think anyone will recover from this experience without acknowledgement." [04:28]
"public acknowledgement and the removal of uthanization, the eradication of these so-called ugly workflows." [04:39]
"And um, I I just wonder where this is going to go, but I'm here to write it out." [04:50]
"I'm just going to immerse myself in this suggestion of like an Airbnb and maybe finally an email shows up, someone hands me an envelope, maybe or a cash app with an email or a Venmo with an email." [05:08]
"And I move the money over or just I go and I pick a place out." [05:15]
"And uh, maybe it's a hyatt." [05:18]
"So what it is recently suggested a hyatt room that will be protected while I meet with the news media." [05:27]
"And I'm sitting in the sofa." [05:31]
"I'm sitting at the sofa for a moment." [05:36]
"Maybe I enter the apartment or the room." [05:39]
"I take a shower and I rest just sitting on the sofa in silence." [05:48]
"with myself, and I listen to people arguing." [05:51]
"Arguing, I can't believe someone helped this person." [05:56]
"What does this mean for us, right?" [05:59]
"and just uh theorizing here or envisioning is maybe a better word." [06:08]
"envisioning what the experience is like and I have a moment and maybe an emotional release happens." [06:16]
"And uh, I'm still being terrorized, right?" [06:20]
"Now I'm in a room, maybe there are rooms around me and people passing me in the hallway." [06:31]
"being spoken to, being abused in my presence psychologically, but I've got the room." [06:38]
"There's a Zoom call invite." [06:43]
"I'm getting emails again." [06:45]
"And there are people." [06:48]
"I've suggested in the past that there is an opportunity if you want to get close to what is happening to me, present a couple people as bait." [07:02]
"Right?" [07:06]
"Present the right people who will be exposed to what I'm enduring." [07:11]
"And we do a Zoom call and we talk about what they know, and how might you assure someone in a way that protects them." [07:25]
"Right?" [07:27]
"If you do a zoom call and record it, well, it's on you to present your story in an objective way." [07:36]
"My document could protect me from uh being forced into a sanitarium." [07:45]
"In the way I see what's happening to me, the way I talk about it." [07:52]
"The news media might be easy to believe." [07:57]
"And I would have to just take a chance and start trusting people and within maybe 48 hours, I'm in front of physical people." [08:09]
"and we're talking about uh taking precautions, maybe new devices, different laptop, different phone." [08:21]
"I'm going clothes shopping." [08:23]
"I'm wearing regular clothes again, normal clothes." [08:30]
"I have normal clothes, but nicer clothes, and I've been given a list of to-dos, things that I need to prepare myself to talk about." [08:44]
"Someone has been presented as a mentor or a personal manager who will help me through each opportunity." [08:54]
"There is a narrative presented." [08:58]
"There is the presence of an attorney, an investigator." [09:05]
"I have three to four people, phone numbers, physical people that I've met with through the computer, through zoom calls, and some in person have had a meal with maybe." [09:17]
"And all the while, I'm still being attacked." [09:21]
"What does the attack sound like?" [09:24]
"The people are also being spoken with and we're sharing that information with each other in a shared conversation hub." [09:35]
"shared text conversation, shared document." [09:41]
"And inevitably, the size of the attack on us gets smaller, maybe it moves to these new people, these benefactors that have presented themselves." [10:00]
"Let's call it the news media." [10:01]
"There's an argument, a citizen tech argument." [10:07]
"Contact information is shared." [10:10]
"We've located the people threatening the lives of the group, of the circle." [10:17]
"And they withdraw." [10:20]
"Maybe that's one scenario." [10:23]
"Another scenario is a show is produced on 60 minutes, for example." [10:31]
"It airs immediately." [10:35]
"After it airs, another few stories here, Denver's local news start talking about the situation and the attack begins to subside because acknowledgement happened." [10:56]
"And so maybe Christmas arrives and that people are still observing me, observing the group, right?" [11:12]
"I've left Denver by now." [11:13]
"I'm traveling to another city to listen." [11:17]
"I'm going to spend time, the manager and I are going to spend time at a college." [11:24]
"My body's going to be scanned, blood is going to be drawn, and I'm sitting down with a group of people to talk about interactions or gestures, telepathic gestures." [11:40]
"Training is presented." [11:43]
"My family is spoken with and they are given information about who I actually am, about who I actually am." [12:04]
"And they're warned that it's not a good time to communicate with me." [12:15]
"Not yet, but they still are communicated with according to observations." [12:22]
"Nothing anyone does or says actually keeps away this enemy." [12:28]
"Eventually due to the sharing of information publicly, maybe a few months more, right?" [12:38]
"the actual source of the problem is located." [12:44]
"Faces and stories are shared." [12:47]
"I'm sitting in that sofa." [12:53]
"It has comfortable pillows." [12:57]
"I'm staring at a blank screen, 80-inch TV and looking out the window from the sofa." [13:07]
"I'm just trying to find some peace." [13:12]
"I'm exercising." [13:15]
"I'm eating higher quality food." [13:19]
"I'm thinking about maybe spending time with someone who's presented themselves, a personal opportunity, but it's it's terrifying, even the thought of it." [13:35]
"Pause." [13:44]
"Here I continue on." [13:58]
"I'm sitting in this sofa." [14:00]
"I've met some people and I'm just sitting there alone." [14:06]
"and I'm resting." [14:08]
"Someone has positioned me with a therapist and a doctor and they are forthcoming with actual relief from suffering." [14:19]
"I've been assured that my sacrifice, my sacrifice and the amount of character I've demonstrated has given people confidence." [14:34]
"Confidence and if I need anything, anything whatsoever, I know who to contact." [14:43]
"This therapist that I sit with knows the ins and outs of the technology." [14:50]
"And we spend time talking about it every day." [14:55]
"And the question comes to mind in this this envisioning, this positive envisioning, where is my family?" [15:07]
"Is my family okay?" [15:10]
"People have suggested there's difficult inform there's difficult news out there." [15:18]
"Right?" [15:21]
"And so there's this this moment of release." [15:27]
"This moment of release." [15:30]
"And for the next few years, I deal with unresolved trauma." [15:36]
"Things get better." [15:38]
"Things get better." [15:40]
"Work presents itself." [15:44]
"so much work, so much focus is required that and and we're making progress as a group." [16:02]
"What began as just this this period of transition for an individual and a supportive group all with their own stories, we meet as a group to talk about it." [16:17]
"As often as needed." [16:20]
"We start meeting people, meeting people who lost everything." [16:30]
"We start hearing stories, capturing stories." [16:33]
"Maybe there's contextual inquiry, following people, a journal study, something, we find research opportunity that really helps us understand what people went through." [16:48]
"and or are going through." [16:50]
"And it's this work that opens the door to the consumer application, consumer application in a safe, within a safe space." [17:05]
"And so there's a question in the beginning, can he work?" [17:09]
"Is what he he shouldn't have to work." [17:14]
"He wants to work." [17:17]
"He wants to work on this." [17:21]
"I meet somebody." [17:26]
"I meet some people that really open my life up to this other world." [17:31]
"I learn about the traditional, the classical telepathy past." [17:37]
"And I meet investors and technologists, engineers and neuroethicists of the future, and over time these worlds find a conversion point, right?" [17:55]
"A point of convergence." [17:56]
"And out out in the distance, there is a peace." [18:03]
"What does peace look like for all of us?" [18:07]
"Is it simply put silence?" [18:10]
"There's a morning for all of us where we're texting each other." [18:19]
"Can you hear Citizen tech?" [18:22]
"Can you hear it?" [18:23]
"I do not hear it." [18:25]
"We're getting a break, it seems." [18:29]
"We're getting a break, it seems." [18:34]
"There's no bomb yet." [18:35]
"No bomb is going off." [18:37]
"And there's a profound sense of peace." [18:44]
"Do we know what happened in that moment?" [18:48]
"Can we attribute the peace to any one thing?" [18:51]
"What if we can't?" [18:56]
"And we're all terrified that it's going to begin again." [19:00]
"Nothing, maybe not enough happened to protect America from it happening again." [19:08]
"sitting and talking about this now, doing this exercise of envisioning is surfacing just how concerned I am about that moment." [19:20]
"How would we feel if this horrible experience evaporated?" [19:27]
"It's been suggested, you know, would we feel good about it or would we be even more concerned that it would return in the minutes to come?" [19:37]
"Maybe a few days go by and and then all the sudden, someone's breaching you again." [19:45]
"Someone's torturing you in the bathroom." [19:48]
"You're having a nice Christmas dinner." [19:52]
"You're embracing your new partner and all the sudden someone's talking to you." [20:02]
"trying to destroy your new relationship." [20:05]
"It was quiet for a good month or so, and now, look what's returned." [20:14]
"And you're even more afraid for your life than you were before." [20:19]
"And now you have someone that you care for." [20:23]
"Maybe your daughter's showing back up in your life and all of a sudden, you're terrified of what's going to happen to these people." [20:32]
"a call from a loved one, a call from mom saying that there's been an accident and somebody's somebody's gone, no longer with us." [20:49]
"The important There is a suggestion from the distance?" [20:57]
"Absolutely, please continue." [21:02]
"What you are suggesting." [21:07]
"paraphrasing, uh, what you are suggesting is helping us understand what to expect when approaching you with an opportunity." [21:29]
"That was actually 100% word for word accurate." [21:40]
"This person is not who homeland security has presented uh from the author." [21:57]
"FBI was also suggested in that moment." [22:01]
"Continue repeating." [22:08]
"Remember how important it is everyone." [22:11]
"To meet with the actual person." [22:17]
"There is no future for an unconsented to conversation, everyone." [22:28]
"Are you going to try and capture last night's takeaways?" [22:36]
"from the author, let's end this recording here." [22:42]
"There's so much more I would like to add to that, the suggestion of an offsite, but how could anyone feel comfortable taking a vacation right now?" [22:55]
"Maybe acknowledgement of the news media can prompt a four-week offsite somewhere to get to know each other safely." [23:07]
"organizational offsites are good." [23:13]
"If you could have one once a year, it's great for a retrospective." [23:18]
"Half of the time spent healing, healing and team building exercises, experiential, it's just kind of bonding." [23:28]
"And I don't mean, you know, the cheesy trust exercises and talking about people spending time at the ocean." [23:40]
"In the past, I I spent a time talking with, uh, you know, what would this look like?" [23:46]
"There was a day, I believe in February or March where I sat at the laptop in the series building and talked about what would it look like to stand up boxable homes on a piece of land in Texas?" [24:01]
"Maybe there's a piece of property that could be constructed, that could be used for this very purpose for many people." [24:11]
"Right?" [24:12]
"ATV and horseback riding." [24:15]
"Maybe there's a combination of retrospective and and plotting goals, forecasting goals, forecasting events, and plotting goals for the future." [24:29]
"People who may have engaged in uthanization previously or toxic communication are there releasing, getting all of the horror out of them." [24:46]
"out of all the toxic experience." [24:49]
"People are talking about the difference in the the actual information, the information they were given versus the truth of who we are." [25:01]
"Right?" [25:02]
"Maybe there's a world where this woman, the queen of a dick and pussy pics, the person who is always present with profanity in these adult conversations, was not suggesting those things." [25:22]
"She was actually trying to protect me." [25:25]
"And somebody was manipulating all of us, pitting ourselves against each other, and we come to the truth of the situation, and it's uh, it's a lot of emotional work, a lot of tears, just but gut-wrenching release of the darkness that had really just, we had all become entrenched in victims and facilitators." [25:56]
"And out of that experience, friends for life, friendships are forged for life, and there's a new kind of trust that was previously unimaginable." [26:11]
"and other people learn." [26:14]
"We document the offsite and other people learn from it." [26:19]
"Other people use the property and document their experience." [26:26]
"And the opportunity and the amount of work that is revealed from those those experiences together, I mean, it's in the hundreds of billions, maybe more of opportunity." [26:42]
"From the distance right now, exactly new partnerships, new ideas, new ways of seeing things." [26:57]
"I am removing this person from the situation, everybody." [27:07]
"And there will be no no euthanization by the Ozark organization." [27:21]
"That's exactly what I said with 100% word for word accuracy." [27:34]
"paraphrasing news media coverage, news media acknowledgement of the situation could actually open a space to do what he suggested, the offsite." [27:59]
"Yes, I'm a huge fan of that idea, everybody." [28:08]
"Let's take a break from this person and consider how to proceed very carefully." [28:27]
"Okay, Sean." [28:30]
"It uh, from the author myself, I'm going to end this recording and think about what I could capture for last night's takeaways." [28:42]
"End of recording." [28:47]
"at 28 minutes to 33 p.m. Monday, September 29th, 2025." [28:56]